2008-01-14 <Shut up or shall... I be break other arm.>

[mindstalk]

Shouldn't there have been four elven languages, originally?

Seems like Sanguen ("Latin") became dominant, and kind of makes sense that the "high elves" would have most influence on humans. OTOH, if Poe wanted Veracian to be Modern Sanguen and Farrellian to be Keiren, he could.

The elves now all speak Sanguen, despite living in a Cimmerii city. I guess the linguistic victory happened before the great self-GENOCIDE!.

Unrelatedly, I wonder where Tsuiraku got its food for the past 2000 years. An upturned mountain doesn't give that much growing space... of course, we could ask about those undeground elves, too.

Cheerful bit about the recent encounter: there aren't so few surviving elves that they've all met each other by now. Admittedly Sarine stays away most of the time.

[Slamlander]

Shouldn't there have been four elven languages, originally?

I thought there were five however, the Wiki link is MIA.

Seems like Sanguen ("Latin") became dominant, and kind of makes sense that the "high elves" would have most influence on humans. OTOH, if Poe wanted Veracian to be Modern Sanguen and Farrellian to be Keiren, he could.

Which ones were the "High" Elves.

The elves now all speak Sanguen, despite living in a Cimmerii city. I guess the linguistic victory happened before the great self-GENOCIDE!.

I'm not so sure what the basis for this is either.

Unrelatedly, I wonder where Tsuiraku got its food for the past 2000 years. An upturned mountain doesn't give that much growing space... of course, we could ask about those undeground elves, too.

I've wondered the same however; We don't have enough data, from Poe, to say one thing or t'other.

Cheerful bit about the recent encounter: there aren't so few surviving elves that they've all met each other by now. Admittedly Sarine stays away most of the time.

Actually, that only makes something more than 2-3 hundred thousand.

[Viking-Sensei]

Unrelatedly, I wonder where Tsuiraku got its food for the past 2000 years. An upturned mountain doesn't give that much growing space... of course, we could ask about those undeground elves, too.

Oh my god... McTsuiraki's Secret Sauce... is made of PEOPLES!

[DarkIntruder]

Oh my god... McTsuiraki's Secret Sauce... is made of PEOPLES!

Toby:
There you'll sample Mrs. Lovett's meat pies
savory and sweet pies as you'll see,
You, who eat pies Mrs. Lovett's meat pies
conjure up the treat pies used to be!

[mindstalk]

Seems like Sanguen ("Latin") became dominant, and kind of makes sense that the "high elves" would have most influence on humans. OTOH, if Poe wanted Veracian to be Modern Sanguen and Farrellian to be Keiren, he could.

Which ones were the "High" Elves.
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Sanguen
http://www.errantstory.com/wiki/index.php/Sanguen

The elves now all speak Sanguen, despite living in a Cimmerii city. I guess the linguistic victory happened before the great self-GENOCIDE!.

I'm not so sure what the basis for this is either.

The Translation link given earlier in the thread.

Cheerful bit about the recent encounter: there aren't so few surviving elves that they've all met each other by now. Admittedly Sarine stays away most of the time.

Actually, that only makes something more than 2-3 hundred thousand.

I don't know where that came from.

I'd been thinking in terms of thousands or hundreds of elves. "There was no one left to fight", "they sent what's left of the elven army."

[Slamlander]

Seems like Sanguen ("Latin") became dominant, and kind of makes sense that the "high elves" would have most influence on humans. OTOH, if Poe wanted Veracian to be Modern Sanguen and Farrellian to be Keiren, he could.

Which ones were the "High" Elves.

Sanguen
http://www.errantstory.com/wiki/index.php/Sanguen

Thanks but Highland Elves are not "High Elves"

The elves now all speak Sanguen, despite living in a Cimmerii city. I guess the linguistic victory happened before the great self-GENOCIDE!.

I'm not so sure what the basis for this is either.

The Translation link given earlier in the thread.

I was more commenting on the "self-GENOCIDE!" remark.

Cheerful bit about the recent encounter: there aren't so few surviving elves that they've all met each other by now. Admittedly Sarine stays away most of the time.

Actually, that only makes something more than 2-3 hundred thousand.

I don't know where that came from.

I'd been thinking in terms of thousands or hundreds of elves. "There was no one left to fight", "they sent what's left of the elven army."

In a race of immortals, it would have to be a fairly large population for there to be Elves that have never met. Simply random chance would guarantee a larger population. Basically, I agreed with you.

[Viking-Sensei]

There's a reason we limited the number of nested quotes, Slammy.

[Slamlander]

There's a reason we limited the number of nested quotes, Slammy.

Yes, and what is that? No one ever explained it to me. Besides I didn't hit the limit.

[Forrest]

Thanks but Highland Elves are not "High Elves"

In the comic where Sarine first describes all the Elven races, someone (Ellis?) comments along the lines of "jeez why don't they just call them 'high elves', 'wood elves', 'sea elves' and 'angsty brooding emo elves'" or some such. Given that the Cimmerii live in caves (dark elves), the Rinkai ruled the coasts (sea elves), and the Keiren preferred forests (wood elves), that leaves the Sanguen as "high elves". Granted, this was a remark from the peanut gallery, but still.

Also, the name "Sanguen" clearly relates to the Latin term for blood, so in the Sanguen language (i.e. Latin) their own name probably means "blood elves" or "pure bloods" or something like that - so, "high" elves as in social status seems a reasonable inference to make. Either that, or they've just got a feud going with the Crips...

[mindstalk]

"I was more commenting on the "self-GENOCIDE!" remark."

You're not sure of the basis for elven self-GENOCIDE!? Sarine said they fought each other until there was no one left to fight, and they'd destroyed all their cities except the one under a mountain. All fought over the issue of whether they should kill the half-elves before the errants killed them, or got cooties on their holiness, or something.