2009-02-20 "EURKK!"

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Re: 2009-02-20 "EURKK!"

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normalphil wrote:
Boss Out of Town wrote:Situation is going to hell in a handbasket rather quickly, isn't it? And IB is right, this is directly effecting Sarine's chances to do anything diplomatic. The more violence and disruption, the less chance she has of getting anyone to talk to her. At least they haven't killed anyone yet.
You do have to wonder how it was this didn't trigger a "bad idea!" response in Sarine during the planning stages. Suggests head damage. Girl is not as level-headed as she pretends to be, not nearly.

Blame it on Jon's influence? :?
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Slamlander wrote:
normalphil wrote:
Boss Out of Town wrote:Situation is going to hell in a handbasket rather quickly, isn't it? And IB is right, this is directly effecting Sarine's chances to do anything diplomatic. The more violence and disruption, the less chance she has of getting anyone to talk to her. At least they haven't killed anyone yet.
You do have to wonder how it was this didn't trigger a "bad idea!" response in Sarine during the planning stages. Suggests head damage. Girl is not as level-headed as she pretends to be, not nearly.

Blame it on Jon's influence? :?
Or Sara's. She's the one whose first reaction to stress is to hit something. Hang out with her and mere theft and kidnapping seem like sane alternatives!
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normalphil wrote: You do have to wonder how it was this didn't trigger a "bad idea!" response in Sarine during the planning stages. Suggests head damage. Girl is not as level-headed as she pretends to be, not nearly.

She's really not that level headed when it comes to dealing with new things outside the range of her experience... it's just that, at nearly three thousand years old, there wasn't much that wasn't within the range of her experiences, until now. Basicly Sarine's found herself right back in the 'playing it by ear... badly' state she spent most of the Errant War in, and she's terrified of that.
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Michael Poe wrote:[quote="normalphil"
You do have to wonder how it was this didn't trigger a "bad idea!" response in Sarine during the planning stages. Suggests head damage. Girl is not as level-headed as she pretends to be, not nearly.

She's really not that level headed when it comes to dealing with new things outside the range of her experience... it's just that, at nearly three thousand years old, there wasn't much that wasn't within the range of her experiences, until now. Basicly Sarine's found herself right back in the 'playing it by ear... badly' state she spent most of the Errant War in, and she's terrified of that.[/quote]

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Is that a general "elves are bad at creativity" thing like some worlds have, or just Sarine's personal weakness?

Either way, I note that Jon *is* good at thinking on his feet, the star moment being taking down two time monks. A good partner.
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Of course, Jon's best idea for this whole possible-war thing was to just lay low, maybe get out of the city that might fall down. A good idea, sure, but one that Sarine isn't going to by into as long as there is a chance to run herself ragged on slim chances that are more likely to lead to death then do any good.

Sarine being afraid of another Errant-war style event is likely a well-founded fear. Did she try and stop the E-War, or protect the Half-Elves, but only found herself playing catch-up to what was going on, having her plans fail or have no effect? I can see that happening, with her afraid it's going to happen all over again.

It also explains a bit about the mind-wipe. She didn't know what to do, and went into a panic. She finds the magic potato and doesn't know what to do, gets in a shouting match, and now this.

She was rather calm during the whole 'steal Meji back from elf-land'. Has she done those kind of sly rescue operations before?
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RubberBandMan wrote:She was rather calm during the whole 'steal Meji back from elf-land'. Has she done those kind of sly rescue operations before?
She was dealing with other elves for the most part. Even if she doesn't like a lot of other elves, she probably understands them better than humans. If for no other reason than that she is one.
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Initial B wrote:It would have been better for Sarine et al if they'd escaped without detection. The government will now know that something has happened and will soon be able to put two and two together, coercing the location out of the assisting mages and use the same coordinates themselves, meaning they'll get to the location even faster than by airship. It seems that for all Sarine's good intentions, all she does is exacerbate the situation.
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She's a freggin well-armed hippie, it's what they do.
Bet she'll be able to pull of something towards the end there though, she's competent and a main character.

A good rule of thumb for Sarine would be to stop betraying governments and try to accomplish things within a more limited framework (such as joining the expedition and making sure the right person gets to be Senilis and such).

I'm waiting for some sort of hat-trick where Sarine manages to screw over the Confederacy or Farrel.
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Sarine: Fucking Humans, Goverments, state secrets, and people who thought she had common sense.

Farrel and The North confed seem a bit too decentralized for Sarine to really screw them over easily. She'd tends to work with the central figures, and does farrel even have an centralized army? I know the Confederacy doesn't.
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I've reasonable odds on her messing up the North now that she's going there on the hunt for a god-person.
Probably not, and for the better overall, but some town might become collateral if Meji or whoever it is can't control it for a section.

Love the list btw. ^^

So the city-states don't have a centralized army, huh? That helps explain why they're not too aggressive.
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Itterind wrote:
Initial B wrote:It would have been better for Sarine et al if they'd escaped without detection. The government will now know that something has happened and will soon be able to put two and two together, coercing the location out of the assisting mages and use the same coordinates themselves, meaning they'll get to the location even faster than by airship. It seems that for all Sarine's good intentions, all she does is exacerbate the situation.
NO, YOU DON'T SAY?

She's a freggin well-armed hippie, it's what they do.
Uh, yeah, just like those well-known hippies, James Bond, Dirty Harry, Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe, John McClane, Jason Bourne, Wyatt Earp, Shane, Robin Hood, Mad Max, Gandalf the Gray, Harry Potter . . .

It's really not the same movie when the hero refuses to take any action not approved by his social and bureaucratic superiors.
History celebrates the battlefields whereon we meet our death, but scorns to speak of the plowed fields whereby we thrive; it knows the names of kings’ bastards but cannot tell us the origin of wheat. This is the way of human folly. --- Henry Fabre
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